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[音视频产品] 悄悄地问一下:电话机属于几类设备?

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发表于 2011-5-12 12:06 | 显示全部楼层
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TNV 1才是属于SELV
发表于 2011-5-12 12:52 | 显示全部楼层
引用第20楼xuming0120于2011-05-12 12:06发表的  :: m! M& f# q' v* g
TNV 1才是属于SELV
这位同学,纠正一下,TNV1不一定是SELV,好好的看一下950里面的Table 1A.
发表于 2011-5-12 13:23 | 显示全部楼层
TNV-1不是SELV,只是正常情况下的电压不会超过SELV的限值
 楼主| 发表于 2011-5-12 15:56 | 显示全部楼层
看来这个问题无解啊,不过大家倾向分为三类设备,我也有底气跟领导理论了,  哈哈
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: ]! [- G# K& q8 G: @' x; M4 |版主啊  看在我提出了这样一个好问题的份上    强烈建议给威望!!!
发表于 2011-5-17 22:24 | 显示全部楼层
参考PAG clause 2.10.2-3 Working voltages in TNV circuits
# V: e5 M2 F. K& TIf the equipment generates a ringing signal and the circuit connects to a Telecommunication& e9 a9 O3 o$ y( H# u; j
Network, the working voltage should be measured in accordance with sub-clause 2.10.4 and( H+ p; }  \2 q, r8 ~7 T% v
Annex M.3.1 to determine maximum peak, rms and/or dc values., J! N  s4 w  |0 M
If the equipment is intended for connection to a U.S./Canadian Telecommunication Network and
% i# J5 z4 l+ z7 V$ n. ireceives incoming analog telecommunication signals (e.g., from a Central Office), the following
9 q" {4 a9 K4 Hmaximum working voltages (TNV-3) should be assumed for purposes of determining required7 }  F5 K* k/ }* E  }8 ]
clearances, creepage distances and electric strength test values:
5 ]3 v7 A! X! `* ?. \! La. peak: 200 V
7 }' L3 {) O5 r, a* m: ?b. rms: 120 V
# j, D# L2 b" l( m3 v( @c. d.c.: 60 V
9 a. K! P3 T9 I2 u6 @176 PAG 60950-1 JULY 15, 2008
+ q3 c: W2 I2 }1 z! m5 CIf the equipment is intended for connection to a European Telecommunication Network, consult
; L3 X2 v+ ^; G5 E$ P% }with IEC TR 62102, Technical Report on Electrical Safety Classification of interfaces for
* H0 S7 L9 d8 c  A9 U+ A9 Vequipment to be connected to information and communications technology networks.
/ T' B' O  i8 j  D  QThe peak and rms values are used for clearance and electric strength determinations, and the  H, o+ X# W/ p0 t
d.c. value is used for creepage distance.
# z4 o/ x3 v0 ZRATIONALE:
9 c( ^" H4 v4 pAnnex M (normative) describes maximum voltage levels associated with Telecommunication
: P& C- r" k- eSignals that comply with FCC Part 68. The maximum peak value specified is 200 V referenced
* [2 Y) w5 W! M0 L  A) x) m! jto earth. Since working voltages typically are measured to earth, this value should be considered8 S8 x* A. D2 G: u( S1 g
the maximum peak value in the U.S. and Canada.6 Z6 x; m! r5 ]0 E# H" L+ j  `+ ^  Z
Although Annex M does not contain a corresponding rms value, 120 V rms is an approximation
9 Z4 V. b! H" _8 gof a composite 56.5 V dc and 300 Vp-p signal. Sub-clause 2.3.5 uses 120 V rms to simulate7 b5 [4 |; e/ G' u
externally generated operating voltages. Therefore this value should be used for investigation to
6 t  V: J* ^, J$ W% {% zthis Standard. Also, sub-clause 2.10.4 indicates that cadenced ringing signals in TNV circuits
, M. m( K4 r2 ?4 t; u  mshall not be taken into account for determining creepage distances, thus a 60 Vd.c. value may* G% B- {+ ~5 [
be used.
  _! p: p6 v) x* a8 `根据class III equipment定义的条款
3 S7 ^6 Z8 N# l7 k$ ^8 U1.2.4.3 CLASS III EQUIPMENT: equipment in which protection against electric shock relies upon1 L5 c+ h. D& r- W0 g, \& N
supply from SELV CIRCUITS and in which HAZARDOUS VOLTAGES are not generated, K. R7 w( n# Y1 r# z0 y' C
NOTE For CLASS III EQUIPMENT, although there is no requirement for protection against electric shock, all other requirements of the standard apply.  q1 G1 r- a8 j+ s6 e! K, b
我认为应属TNV-3的设备也应属CLASS III,因为其只是接受来自上游的Ring singal,不是自己内部产生。
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发表于 2011-5-17 22:51 | 显示全部楼层
引用第24楼包子于2011-05-17 22:24发表的  :, T, Q  ^3 R& M2 R$ |6 q
参考PAG clause 2.10.2-3 Working voltages in TNV circuits, ^% z3 ~2 I2 l( q5 m
If the equipment generates a ringing signal and the circuit connects to a Telecommunication
% z- Q9 Q$ m+ e  z, J! r' o0 s3 Y+ BNetwork, the working voltage should be measured in accordance with sub-clause 2.10.4 and
3 a) a/ ?, ]6 Q# gAnnex M.3.1 to determine maximum peak, rms and/or dc values.9 U' Y# J: u, `  x. c! i* e, h5 z
If the equipment is intended for connection to a U.S./Canadian Telecommunication Network and
7 s# V+ `) v; |  k5 H.......
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TNV-3是正常工作的电压超过了SELV,怎么可能是SELV供电呢?* o* s+ }: k% ~: ^: N
直接接电话线的电话机应该是不分类的,不是class I, 不是class II, 也不是class III
" T' X5 f% C# z7 y. Q标准也没有说IT产品一定要属于其中一种吧?
发表于 2011-5-19 13:55 | 显示全部楼层
没有带ADAPTER的电话机,如果使用TNV-3端口,可以不分类。也就是说不属于CLASS I, II 和 III的任意一种。带了ADAPTER供电就跟适配器来分类。
发表于 2011-6-9 16:35 | 显示全部楼层
不用判断属于几类!
发表于 2011-6-9 17:03 | 显示全部楼层
我认为 电话机定义为三类产品最合适.没见过电话机打回字标签的.现在有好多产品都很难定义为哪一类产品,比如照相机,电池供电,虽然照相机是低电压供电,但是在使用闪光灯的时候,聚集的电压会很大远远超过安全电压.
 楼主| 发表于 2011-10-11 11:25 | 显示全部楼层
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