關于battery charger申請UL 60950-1問題

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現有一款battery charger在申請UL 60950-1時, UL說根據Practical Application Guidelines for
" a* h6 c" b1 B5 E( P5 d! l- RInformation Technology Equipment –Safety – Part-1: General RequirementsPAG 60950-1, First Edition, 如下:


. ?5 r5 M+ ~% i2 X* k4.3.8-3 Performance requirements for battery chargers with battery packs
; \0 r) ]2 p8 GSTANDARD IEC/UL 60950-1
APPLICABILITY UL(C-UL) and IEC
- E# b) ~" _5 w/ K$ \2 l+ k3 t(Sub)CLAUSE/ANNEX NUMBER: 4.3.8
. J  Y7 K0 }% W(Sub)CLAUSE/ANNEX HEADING: Batteries
9 G, i# F# t) E8 E) z# JOTHER RELEVANT (Sub)CLAUSES/ANNEXES (as
Applicable):
1.7.2, 4.5, 5.3
& }  M5 r3 _. C9 j) p5 M5 O: v- lDESCRIPTION OF ISSUE:
+ v" I5 M' d1 kType of Issue: Technical/Certification
What are the construction and performance requirements for battery chargers (with battery
packs) when the battery charger is evaluated under the Standard as part of either an end
( z3 ~7 W# o( A) ~product investigation or part of an Accessory Listing investigation?
APPLICATION GUIDELINE:
The following are general construction and performance guidelines.
Construction: The following considerations should be given to battery chargers (and packs)
* f1 P& Z/ N( F9 y) `  xduring the construction evaluation.
a. A marking should be provided on the battery charger indicating the specific model
3 n+ T: b- ?. `of ITE for which the battery charger is to be used;
b. The charger should be marked to indicate the battery pack (mfg./type/rating) for
which the battery charger is to be used;
c. The battery charger and battery pack constructions should be controlled in the UL
Follow-up Procedure.
0 ]4 |6 P, r: {3 K# l9 mPerformance: The following considerations should be given to the performance test program
) T& U& `$ C0 A$ N- N  [established for battery chargers:
186 PAG 60950-1 OCTOBER 1, 2004
) |% [& D% X% w: k! T1 za. For external stand-alone battery chargers that have the capability of supplying ITE
+ P4 f6 R( \4 L( |) vwith power, a Heating Test (sub-clause 4.5) should be conducted with the battery
charger supplying the ITE load. Discharged battery packs should be replaced with fully
+ t* [' O) g% A* z9 n2 t( ccharged battery packs until thermal equilibrium is achieved;
b. For all battery charger circuits, a Heating Test (sub-clause 4.5) should be
0 H3 z8 U4 P1 Dconducted with the battery charger charging battery packs that have been fully
discharged;
3 Z. d6 }0 O+ b- Hc. If the battery charging circuit is supplied by a transformer, a Transformer Overload
; U: i0 ?9 g2 A7 a1 Y9 o( n. Q) T(C1) Test should be conducted on the transformer that supplies the charging circuit.
d. An Abnormal Operation Test program (per Sub-clauses 4.3.8 and 5.3.6) should be
0 O8 b: u/ m' h9 |; Jdesigned anticipating possible foreseeable fault conditions, including a short circuit of
the battery charger output (if user accessible) and reverse polarity testing of the
5 V( H; f$ Y; j9 B4 l3 kcharger input (if the battery charger input connector is not polarized).
RATIONALE:
1 R3 {* [$ E4 F6 s. iBattery chargers evaluated under this Standard introduce some unique considerations into
. M& \. h% Z: @equipment evaluations. Battery chargers are typically designed for specific size (power) battery
packs and use of battery packs other than that specified by the manufacturer could create a
1 z$ {' f4 n( z6 Q4 Ahazard. Therefore, it is prudent to require correlation marking between charger unit and battery
+ c1 R8 E5 A# `/ |1 Y% [/ n/ J& ^pack.
7 Z  b- _7 a" |" V1 Z9 EBattery charger circuits typically are supplied power by a transformer. During the charging cycle,
the transformer may be subjected to a different set of thermal conditions than experienced
8 l- k- A, F# _. C* s3 V, nduring other normal load testing, and it is more likely that a transformer supplying the charger
* U9 Z8 x9 C' _circuit will be subjected to an overload condition. Therefore, requiring a transformer overload
1 s" M; ~* r# H9 d- u. P6 h& Gtest.
OTHER:
Comments:
& \2 K2 D' j+ r. i: q$ X9 v3 ^) ^Interpretation Systems: NONE

需要管控電池, 且需要指定電池的型號及廠家, 還有在Heating Test及Input Test需要用到電池, 但我的battery charger并不打算連同電池一起銷售呀, 且也目前沒有跟此battery charger搭配的電池.
請問這樣合理嗎?請大家討論下.

rick.xiao

解決方案一. 你在申請ul60950時壓根就不要提功能是Battery Charger,申請Power Sullply就好了,因為在申請Power Sullply和Battery Charger雖然用同一個標準來評估,但是針對不同用法要求是不一樣的;
解決方案二. 如果你一定要以Battery Charger來申請,那是一定要管控電池型號規格的了,同時輸出端需加极性保護,好像可以不控制廠家的,這點你可以和認證公司溝通一下應為可行的.

jackie

一般来说Battery Charger是以申请UL1310 or UL1012为主，但若一定要申请UL 60950-1，则会依照PAG的要求，是必须控制锂电池的厂家型号，其他类的充电电池会控制规格，并且需搭配电池做测试

prince

經跟UL工程師討論, 最終需要在Label及使用手冊中管控電池的廠家及型號, 但電池必須是UL 2054的Listing的電池.

yishenger

充电器嘛，在使用说明书或铭牌中当然要写明适用的电池信息啦，电池型号那么多，消费者不知道，那就要写明是什么厂家生产的什么型号的电池了。这样防止用户随便给不适用电池充电带来危险。

prince

我覺得這個問題有爭議, 因為我們再做ATX Power時也不會去考量它最終會用在何種環境下,如果到時發生了問題這樣的責任也很難劃分是ATX Power的問題還是其它PC里面的零件問題.那么這個也跟battery charger不搭配電池銷售一樣.

jackie

ATX Power是属于半成品类，最终还是要与系统再做评估，与充电器的状况是不一样的

prince

那我們的筆記本用的Adapter也可以給電池充電, 但我們也不會去評估這顆Adapter是否會搭配何種電池.

kevin1946

引用第7楼prince于2008-06-06 08:57发表的  :
那我們的筆記本用的Adapter也可以給電池充電, 但我們也不會去評估這顆Adapter是否會搭配何種電池.

这也许是应为充放电的管理电路在笔记本上,而不在Adapter上!

fd_fang

但是给笔记本或手机申请时那个电源并没有写明是充电器，而是写电源适配器。