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[音视频产品] 悄悄地问一下:电话机属于几类设备?

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发表于 2011-5-12 12:06 | 显示全部楼层
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TNV 1才是属于SELV
发表于 2011-5-12 12:52 | 显示全部楼层
引用第20楼xuming0120于2011-05-12 12:06发表的  :
1 m2 a' O8 h+ }; z, B, y+ \( W" MTNV 1才是属于SELV
这位同学,纠正一下,TNV1不一定是SELV,好好的看一下950里面的Table 1A.
发表于 2011-5-12 13:23 | 显示全部楼层
TNV-1不是SELV,只是正常情况下的电压不会超过SELV的限值
 楼主| 发表于 2011-5-12 15:56 | 显示全部楼层
看来这个问题无解啊,不过大家倾向分为三类设备,我也有底气跟领导理论了,  哈哈
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, {( w/ t4 Y1 d3 w+ T2 C版主啊  看在我提出了这样一个好问题的份上    强烈建议给威望!!!
发表于 2011-5-17 22:24 | 显示全部楼层
参考PAG clause 2.10.2-3 Working voltages in TNV circuits
0 A0 d: O" z% D5 N, {5 K# ?If the equipment generates a ringing signal and the circuit connects to a Telecommunication5 {2 U& M3 I" j. g& G' G
Network, the working voltage should be measured in accordance with sub-clause 2.10.4 and
7 B' t  I/ G, C3 @: SAnnex M.3.1 to determine maximum peak, rms and/or dc values.2 Y" v# Q4 \& c  a  N
If the equipment is intended for connection to a U.S./Canadian Telecommunication Network and+ F1 h8 I$ t3 [8 ~$ K1 P
receives incoming analog telecommunication signals (e.g., from a Central Office), the following
/ n+ r! n, m  m; }+ f4 ?2 kmaximum working voltages (TNV-3) should be assumed for purposes of determining required
: ^- e  M6 k: N% Q# x* kclearances, creepage distances and electric strength test values:2 ]# B1 w! J; n) L1 ]# [# E0 [
a. peak: 200 V! @' e% J+ b9 B6 C# @. ~0 j
b. rms: 120 V
2 Y3 j9 W; G$ `- D. Wc. d.c.: 60 V5 ]: j+ k* C" K! ]% N" E/ B* N! M
176 PAG 60950-1 JULY 15, 2008
, p9 u* b1 I  ]( d! X$ }5 s' w# VIf the equipment is intended for connection to a European Telecommunication Network, consult) {( V( \' q: M& h0 H
with IEC TR 62102, Technical Report on Electrical Safety Classification of interfaces for
9 t; \/ q' E! [; e3 E# mequipment to be connected to information and communications technology networks.
( s$ b+ m6 h: e7 C. g, W* `. lThe peak and rms values are used for clearance and electric strength determinations, and the1 \: Z* f3 I1 J; V( M
d.c. value is used for creepage distance.7 x0 x. Y6 L' A& O0 I
RATIONALE:# i  \: S2 a# U* f  S$ w1 D
Annex M (normative) describes maximum voltage levels associated with Telecommunication9 p; O0 Z) _- D& ~. h% K9 J& E
Signals that comply with FCC Part 68. The maximum peak value specified is 200 V referenced/ t/ s+ P- ~2 x- `
to earth. Since working voltages typically are measured to earth, this value should be considered. i" M4 x& v8 l9 A/ e! w
the maximum peak value in the U.S. and Canada.
' F2 E, i" M/ h3 @9 O0 RAlthough Annex M does not contain a corresponding rms value, 120 V rms is an approximation
" [- l" T: o! w. B9 Fof a composite 56.5 V dc and 300 Vp-p signal. Sub-clause 2.3.5 uses 120 V rms to simulate$ C+ O7 I# v& V: \( O" T
externally generated operating voltages. Therefore this value should be used for investigation to- o4 J- v( }$ Z4 h
this Standard. Also, sub-clause 2.10.4 indicates that cadenced ringing signals in TNV circuits
/ n  r7 }" I. Mshall not be taken into account for determining creepage distances, thus a 60 Vd.c. value may0 z8 G; b8 @2 ^" [1 W( I  w
be used.
% @# P$ h. ^/ J2 x6 y. }0 |* C" b根据class III equipment定义的条款4 y0 X5 h# y# Z: k! e/ {
1.2.4.3 CLASS III EQUIPMENT: equipment in which protection against electric shock relies upon, |( B/ \4 M0 m/ d" q! S
supply from SELV CIRCUITS and in which HAZARDOUS VOLTAGES are not generated
+ l$ e/ V; G2 I4 P$ Y) p0 j/ HNOTE For CLASS III EQUIPMENT, although there is no requirement for protection against electric shock, all other requirements of the standard apply.( k# V) n# k- h3 d6 T
我认为应属TNV-3的设备也应属CLASS III,因为其只是接受来自上游的Ring singal,不是自己内部产生。
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发表于 2011-5-17 22:51 | 显示全部楼层
引用第24楼包子于2011-05-17 22:24发表的  :! i: |1 F* k; n( ^0 @
参考PAG clause 2.10.2-3 Working voltages in TNV circuits
/ ~2 `  M3 f& `( j3 r+ {If the equipment generates a ringing signal and the circuit connects to a Telecommunication0 w$ i8 E* U  {, ^
Network, the working voltage should be measured in accordance with sub-clause 2.10.4 and" @% q6 X; D. ]) n8 f2 i: e2 F
Annex M.3.1 to determine maximum peak, rms and/or dc values.
5 U" u* \, t9 F* X: g% X: h+ s) }* AIf the equipment is intended for connection to a U.S./Canadian Telecommunication Network and8 X5 H1 m$ y+ m& E) _
.......
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TNV-3是正常工作的电压超过了SELV,怎么可能是SELV供电呢?' u) u7 ^7 K: c( w5 T
直接接电话线的电话机应该是不分类的,不是class I, 不是class II, 也不是class III
" q& q; v; d" c3 r标准也没有说IT产品一定要属于其中一种吧?
发表于 2011-5-19 13:55 | 显示全部楼层
没有带ADAPTER的电话机,如果使用TNV-3端口,可以不分类。也就是说不属于CLASS I, II 和 III的任意一种。带了ADAPTER供电就跟适配器来分类。
发表于 2011-6-9 16:35 | 显示全部楼层
不用判断属于几类!
发表于 2011-6-9 17:03 | 显示全部楼层
我认为 电话机定义为三类产品最合适.没见过电话机打回字标签的.现在有好多产品都很难定义为哪一类产品,比如照相机,电池供电,虽然照相机是低电压供电,但是在使用闪光灯的时候,聚集的电压会很大远远超过安全电压.
 楼主| 发表于 2011-10-11 11:25 | 显示全部楼层
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