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[综合话题] 关键元件中外壳可以认为是基本绝缘的元件

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学习了,学习了,谢谢1
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只有Y,X电容是,其余不是
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[s:83学习了
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元器件是否作为绝缘那样看元件
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安规007 发表于 2011-5-3 14:58
; r1 |. M1 h8 Q, P7 X( RY电容表面是基本绝缘? 那是不是意味着再包层热缩套管就可以当附加绝缘? 人手就可以碰了??我对此持怀疑态 ...
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附加绝缘穿透有要求的,家电1mm。另外,电容外壳与带电体打过耐压,我认为是达到基本绝缘要求。如果想用热缩套管,那么热缩套管1层先需要打耐压,通过后做附加绝缘需要2层以上,也需要做试验。
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OSM/EE DECISION SHEET0 n4 U/ d8 K6 h6 ~$ d

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Reinforced insulation area        Meeting:
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Can the enclosure of a Y1 capacitor be regarded as reinforced insulation?
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The enclosure of a Y1 capacitor is considered to comply with the requirements for reinforced insulation with the exception of the area near to the leads where the insulation becomes thinner.6 q  c! C+ p' O7 ^+ K4 k

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VIENNA – OSM/EE MEETING FOR ELECTRONIC EQUIPMENT  05 – 06 MAY 2010% }5 _$ q" g6 P

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Question 2) A common failure mode of electrolytic capacitors causes a pressure build up within the component, which results in the capacitor expanding in size, to the point where the outer marking sleeve/insulation may split – exposing the capacitor can (normally connected to the negative capacitor terminal).1 h" k5 T+ \0 i' F% {3 w
Is it permissible to consider that the outer marking sleeve/insulation of electrolytic capacitors, as meeting the requirements of thin sheet material (EN 60950-1:2006 Sub-clause 2.10.5.6 and EN 60065:2002 Clause 8.8), without taking into account this possible failure mode?: H2 y- K" C# W7 C6 \  g" l7 f

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On the side the insulation can be regarded to comply with the requirements for basic insulation, but on the bottom or top side all manufacturing tolerances have to be taken into account. Information of the manufacturer (especially variation due to ageing) is needed. ) j( {7 a! Q2 s4 Y5 m: C: I
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Requirements for failure mode are to be taken into account.! i' k3 V, l4 j& x( s/ J
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60065 Clause 11; Fault conditions.
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Is to be send to MT1 and MT2 (October meetings 2010) for confirmation.
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. Z/ ?$ X4 R: o# aIf it is a critical component it must be listed in the critical component list.
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