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[UL认证] UL对铭牌贴纸的要求

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发表于 2009-4-14 10:26 | 显示全部楼层
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如果带有UL listing mark的标签,有PGAA的认证,没有PGDQ2的认证可以吗
发表于 2010-4-10 14:45 | 显示全部楼层
谢谢!,该解释对我也很有用。
9 L; C; F2 ~- k8 r, c5 S& \最近,我接待UL厂检人员时,就收到提示,需要注意铭牌标签(不带UL logo),但是不懂,查询N久??甚至抱着UL969标准啃啃也没有用。(找过UL厂检人员,他们也不能提供为什么要检查的这方面的资料,以及怎样检查这些方面的资料,那位XDJM有,希望能够上传)6 U* g2 Z( V) N3 M: k
对于楼主的第一个问题,我比较赞同Fasten的回复,原因是我在阅读Subject 1598 FUII,发现的。/ s6 K" d& R, a& x7 ]% i: g
现在理解如下:- F2 m, L. U+ z* x/ Y, O
1.标签含有重要信息,并在细则中描述,但不包含UL logo(如制造商/警示语/使用环境/电气参数等)需要PGDQ2/8相关证明材料(由供应商提供)
/ u) J1 k6 X# l( h* A9 L, B4 \3 |2.若标签含有UL logo ,则还需要PGAA材料。
发表于 2010-5-11 15:55 | 显示全部楼层
引用第8楼changeid7于2008-07-15 10:05发表的  :
$ J/ L4 y, K; [4 P# v珠三角做UL认证PET贴纸的好少啊
我公司就可以做UL认证的标签,有PGDQ2/8 PGJI2、PGAA的认证需要短信我
发表于 2010-5-11 15:57 | 显示全部楼层
引用第10楼ellenqing于2009-04-14 10:26发表的  :( q+ }. ]- @+ |' W# S
如果带有UL listing mark的标签,有PGAA的认证,没有PGDQ2的认证可以吗
不可以!
发表于 2010-5-11 16:09 | 显示全部楼层
UL对铭牌贴纸的要求" h3 F" `. e7 W( k0 `
在进行UL认证时, 针对使用的UL铭牌贴纸, 要求具有UL认证(UL CCN: PGDQ2/8)或者CSA 认证, 如果是UL LIST 的产品, 对铭牌贴纸还要求有PGAA的认证. 4 h: i0 [: ~& z) E9 i% D- [# ]

0 \' q% O8 j1 v) x+ V本人有以下的疑问没有得到确认, 欢迎XDJM讨论解答, 指点迷津.
4 P5 J# k' L* K" l  e1. 是否只针对含有UL logo (Recognized, Listed)贴纸有 PGDQ2/8 的要求? 还是使用于UL产品的任何贴纸都要求?) T) E2 I% o4 v1 C  o$ g
A: This issue can not be set in one model, but most of the UL markings, especially the printed paper labels should be UL PGDQ2/8 or PGJI2/8:  P1 V. Y6 S& P- l# E1 q
Remark: for UL listing mark, PGAA is also needed and the label design must be reviewed by UL label center, then you can use the listing mark.

# `" m6 {- q$ i2. 截取UL PGDQ2 认可的信息如下:
$ C2 N0 S8 g% A% |; @"1008". Affixed to stainless steel, galvanized steel, alkyd paint, anodized aluminum, porcelain and aluminum, maximum temperature 100 C (212 F), minimum temperature -40 C (-40 F); nylon, polycarbonate, acrylonitrile butadiene styrene (ABS) plastic, phenolic and polypropylene, maximum temperature 60 C (140 F), minimum temperature -40 C (-40 F). Suitable where exposed indoors and outdoors to high humidity or occasional exposure to water.3 a& r% B" m& I+ d, N) q+ O
是否说明"1008" 只能使用于Nylon, PC, ABS等这些指定的材料表面, 且要求产品在该贴铭牌的表面不超过相应的温度?1 i! h$ B, b7 \7 e- H$ e- R/ R
A: Yes, so when you select the label provider, you must consider this kind of questions.- u' [: ], ^$ d. y, n% L
3. 如第2点提到的UL贴纸, 如果我的观点没错, 那么就不能在PET表面使用该贴纸了, 请问是否有合适的珠三角供应商可以提供(要求温度至少80度, 请说明UL file number and type 即可)?
) X* x* \* c- `A: You can find this kind of providers through the follow way:
% [, O5 p# o  C* X1 a+ `1. Log onto www.UL.com;$ L8 q( D, F% U; N( h7 H6 n, k
2.Click "certification" button;
) I" o: p$ T) R8 @6 X3. Input the &quotGDQ2/8" or "PGJI2/8" at the corresponding blank, then ok

( y' B9 \4 W# k4 f4. 如果工厂在产品上丝印时, 使用的印油是否需要认证?
8 b# O5 E) X0 `% E$ d, Z! Z) GA: At this time, the label which your manufacturer used is "PGJI2", you must use additional ink or color ribbon which approved by UL and this kind of ink or color ribbon must match with the paper(PGJI2/8) you factory used.0 c: O+ H8 l# G1 j+ \8 w& }  c6 Q
5. 能否说说 PGJI2 的认证是什么意思?% c1 w9 J; t* p% l) R! U1 O
A: Another kind of label CCN, Under this CCN, the manufacturer can print another information on the label, but the manufacturer must focus on the issues which mentioned in item 4.谢谢!
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% `7 x6 O4 g7 d; I2 N! o, Z; D8 OFor detailed information, pls see below:& ?0 ]' D  @* d+ l1 j0 y2 n9 ]
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Topic I--->Classification for UL type R markings7 ^) ?: j8 G' e; J3 {+ `, F- C: g
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1. The UL listing mark: most of the UL final products can be covered in this kind of marking, such as the computer, PC, domestic appliance, power tools, and etc. For this kind of UL mark, it must be shown on the product itself;- }6 S: E8 \+ V- M. W+ ?* d: N
2. The UL recognized mark: this kind of mark only applies to the components, not the whole products, and normally this kind of mark is "RU" with the "R" turns to the opposite direction. Not the same as the UL listing mark, this mark is not compulsory to be shown on the product itself or on the package, but in most cases, the manufacturer will show this mark on their products or the packages for those products;$ ~3 P. C- Z4 a7 I. o. L
3. The UL classified mark: this kind of mark is for some special products, and only some characteristics of those products can fulfill the UL's requirements, then it's not so common compared with the UL listing and recognized markings.
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Topic II--->Decription and requirements for UL type R labels
) _; a$ i9 v9 b9 [6 j/ z6 z$ GNot similar with the UL type L labels, the manufacturers don't need to order and buy the UL labels directly from UL, at this time the manufacturers can print the labels by themselves or buy the labels from a UL authorized Label provider, so pls see below for details:
. x" U8 T( f6 e: }  S! R1. For UL listed/listing mark: ; i4 r7 d. L* T$ r5 G% P
Normally, if this kind of mark is laser-printed or die-stamped, there is no special requirements for the labels,and at this time , the manufacturer only needs to send the design drawing of the label to UL label center and let the label center to review the design, then ok is ok. : P2 w2 a1 h7 n  R! r' {
But if the labels are adhesive paper label, then there are many requirements in most cases for the label provider:
" T# h! ?1 Y/ d8 Z0 s1) The label provider must have the UL PGAA and PGJI2 or PGDQ2 program, that means there are two combinations for this kind of labelPGAA+PGDQ2)and  (PGAA+PGJI2).0 I' X) L& _* \1 @6 `. |5 f  E
2) The label design drawing must be approved by UL label center, that means the manufacturer or the label provider must let the label design approved by UL before they apply the labels to their products.
$ _- u0 }( x  l' N' ~# g, C3) If PGAA+PGJI2 is used, at this time, the label provider only provide blank or partial blank labels to the manufacturer, then the manufacturer can print some content on the labels by themselves, pay more attention that the ink or the ribbon which the manufacturer used must match the label materials, and this matching information can be found on the UL website.
2 y; {8 S1 d( W  U2. For UL recognized mark:
. d9 |. e! h9 M! mBasically, in most cases,the "RU" in not the necessary element for this kind of products except the PWB, AWM. So for this kind of mark:
/ T& p8 p% O( H9 n, q0 ]4 e; L; y1) The PGAA program is not needed for the label provider.
4 I( H' |" A& Z1 b/ x9 ~2) The PGDQ2 or PGJI2 is needed and the requirements is similar with the listing mark.
( p7 i8 Z% S( W$ `, O# M# T3) Label design review is also  not needed.
发表于 2010-5-11 16:14 | 显示全部楼层
引用第4楼Jim-Guo于2007-07-08 06:59发表的  :
2 w. E; L$ R8 H3 K4 C4 Z4 _, B4. 如果工厂在产品上丝印时, 使用的印油是否需要认证?
' ]5 I8 w' d3 W/ ^  Q* j完全可以在外壳上丝印或移印,所使用的油墨不用认证.
需要认证吧
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谢谢!,该解释对我也很有用。
" [; a* E0 u$ n: `# f! y最近,我接待UL厂检人员时,就收到提示,需要注意铭牌标签(不带UL logo),但是不懂,查询N久??甚至抱着UL969标准啃啃也没有用。(找过UL厂检人员,他们也不能提供为什么要检查的这方面的资料,以及怎样检查这些方面的资料,那位XDJM有,希望能够上传)
( A+ i  l0 i2 q对于楼主的第一个问题,我比较赞同Fasten的回复,原因是我在阅读Subject 1598 FUII,发现的。
( r; t# @* R: w/ K/ Z# u* J现在理解如下:) Q' Y# V9 L( ^5 i) `
1.标签含有重要信息,并在细则中描述,但不包含UL logo(如制造商/警示语/使用环境/电气参数等)需要PGDQ2/8相关证明材料(由供应商提供)# {; }+ N$ E7 U% r4 s5 Z; b
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For RU logo, the PGAA is not needed, only for UL listing mark, PGAA is needed for the Label provider..There are three big kinds of marking in UL:9 B9 A4 f3 w4 o3 i" }
1. Recognized components: mostly for components, and indicated with "RU", but this "RU" is not an necessary element for the whole mark, the manufacturer can select not to show the "RU" mark on their products' labels.
) F' e' ]" Q3 F3 O2 |5 A6 K2.Listing mark, normally for the final products, such as the computer , or some key components, at this time PGAA is needed, plus the PGDQ2/8 or PGJI2/8.- Z) h3 q3 h0 ~/ Q7 ?
3.Classified mark, is not so common, don't need to consider this special case....
发表于 2010-5-21 17:05 | 显示全部楼层
引用第8楼changeid7于2008-07-15 10:05发表的  :
6 \/ e0 C7 D" c1 Z) }4 W( T" b6 z珠三角做UL认证PET贴纸的好少啊
深圳有几家,但记住要先去备案呀。
发表于 2010-5-24 17:12 | 显示全部楼层
引用第16楼Andy.Yang于2010-05-11 16:23发表的 :
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For RU logo, the PGAA is not needed, only for UL listing mark, PGAA is needed for the Label provider..There are three big kinds of marking in UL:
0 ~  X9 _* p" T) z+ ]* I3 }1. Recognized components: mostly for components, and indicated with "RU", but this "RU" is not an necessary element for the whole mark, the manufacturer can select not to show the "RU" mark on their products' labels. % G8 ^# h% b( K
2.Listing mark, normally for the final products, such as the computer , or some key components, at this time PGAA is needed, plus the PGDQ2/8 or PGJI2/8. , ]! n7 g' g( U# U
3.Classified mark, is not so common, don't need to consider this special case....

! D! @( p4 E$ G7 q4 b6 j2 \% J说清楚了PGAA的相关的定 义后。我想大家都可能完全明白和理解。
% f/ S8 c" d2 ^9 T一、PGAA适用的范围7 Z& E' ~4 h% u$ _; ]
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以一是详细,请大家发上5分钟时间即可完全明了:# ^. ~0 d6 m6 x2 w* ?5 [3 d& {
依据 UL Subject 988, 2003 1 31 的公告,从 20033 31 开始,印有 UL 标志 (Mark) 的标签要向有 UL PGAA 认证的供货商购得。若 UL 工厂自己印,再用在自己的 UL 产品上,则不受此项规定的限制。% Z3 U$ s5 ?# s8 K
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' B7 z) Z( ?9 c5 {4 {/ {/ y$ I这是 UL 新的强制规定,其目的是要维持 UL Mark 的公正性及防止UL Mark被仿冒并和 UL Mark 的印制商有更紧密的联系。
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UL 认证的PGAA 供货商就是已加入UL授权标签供应商专案(Authorized Label Suppliers Program - ALSP) 的供货商。 这些PGAA 供货商的名字及相关资料 (地址、电话号码、传真号码、网址、电子邮件地址等) 都会刊登在 UL 的网站www.ul.com/clients/label 及发行名录 www.ul.com/database 上。标签使用者可以藉此找到UL 认证合格的供货商。
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ALSP适用的范围包括:UL 的最终产品组装厂 (如笔记型计算机厂等) 零件厂 (如保险丝工厂等) UL Mark ( 5 P7 y8 Z6 K% _) p$ [7 @7 ]3 z# c9 \
标志除外*)不是自己印制,而是向外采购,那么印制带着 UL Mark 的标签的供货商就必须是 UL 认证的 PGAA 供货商。(对于PGDQ2, PGJI2 PGIS2UL 只针对其材质/物性做测试及认证,与PGAA 针对UL Mark 的管制不同。)3 C" D/ w& K2 @1 r% e/ t9 Z7 @
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1 c4 u* I0 ?* W+ }5 D# O印有 UL Mark 的标签 (自己印制给自己用除外) 都要有 PGAA,例如贴在产品上的面板卷标 (nameplate),包装袋/ (吊卡、塑料袋、彩盒、大小纸箱)。说明书、目录则不需要 PGAA 塑料成型的零组件 (如外壳等) 上面有 UL Mark (用射出或丝网印刷) ,若这些零组件是出货给UL 的最终产品组装厂使用,则这个供货商不需要申请 PGAA  w6 o  w" S! s# C) J
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! k6 d, X$ o9 `对于标签使用者而言,工厂应该首先向广州标签中心提交UL Certification Mark 的设计图案,如果认为是合乎规范的,UL将授权工厂使用。该图案将被标示并被打上日期,然后送回工厂。工厂可以根据这个原稿图案在工厂内印制(stampingmoldingink-stampingsilk screening 或者类似)或者交于有UL 授权的供应商印刷。一旦当标签供应商收到原稿图案的副本时,标签供应商就可以根据工厂指定的数量印刷并直接发送到工厂。: Y) C/ Y' R8 O- p( _2 {: k

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这里需要指出的是被授权的图案仅包括UL Listing Mark的四个要素:UL SymbolUL符号)、Control Number(控制号)、“LISTED”(LISTED字样)和 Product Identity(产品名)。! |: F" F) u% f

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; H3 l8 C3 c% Q' b! w. h. K2003 10 1日开始,若工厂所使用的UL Mark ( 标志除外),不是向UL  PGAA 认证的供货商购得(自己印制除外),那么UL检验员将会依据UL 跟踪检验服务书(FUS Procedure)的列名标志资料页(Listing Mark Data Page)上的规定开VNVariation Notice)。) N/ U1 g8 B' S; k& {; I; Q
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引用第18楼weiliang于2010-05-24 17:12发表的  :, G( j% t2 i$ Z. R, s+ K

" m1 k/ v0 H% Y" H; T) P3 l说清楚了PGAA的相关的定 义后。我想大家都可能完全明白和理解。4 `/ m& i8 \6 U, n1 O: Z
一、PGAA适用的范围
! T! T, d% |7 _+ N; G二、应用PGAA的标签范围2 n  E8 A: X5 D. o0 d" Y/ |% j
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这个真的要顶一下
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