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[欧洲产品] 机械指令-油压千斤顶的问题

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发表于 2007-6-16 09:24 | 显示全部楼层 |阅读模式
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我有一款设备,油压千斤顶,问了一些代理,和实验室,他们说如果用在汽车上,那么就属于危险机械,很多机构就不能做.请问是这样的吗?哪里能做这个测试?有些机构给我报价25000一款,请问贵吗?
发表于 2007-6-16 17:36 | 显示全部楼层
引用第0楼xjhzhero于2007-06-16 09:24发表的 机械指令的问题 :
' s9 o9 ?' P( D7 f' I) ]* [2 J; u我有一款设备,油压千斤顶,问了一些代理,和实验室,他们说如果用在汽车上,那么就属于危险机械,很多机构就不能做.请问是这样的吗?哪里能做这个测试?有些机构给我报价25000一款,请问贵吗?

, g: l- R3 d% q* h/ _看看机械指令的annex IV, 看是否在其范围内
发表于 2007-6-21 09:26 | 显示全部楼层
不好意思,刚看到楼主的帖.我不是很明白您的意思,您是找哪家做的认证?这款油压千斤顶是打算做出口到哪里的认证,我记得TUV是可以做千斤顶欧洲的认证的.; ^! h: J. i, |* C" m
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您可以参考ANSI/ASME PALD-106, JIS D8101,8102.DIN 76024~/ C; I+ x; P3 x0 T

. N5 ^4 x7 m# |至于价格,还是要取决你是找的哪家机构和做的哪个国家的认证了.这里的2.5W是美圆吗?
发表于 2007-6-21 09:43 | 显示全部楼层
沒錯, 你的是危險產品, 要做型式認證:
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发表于 2007-6-21 09:46 | 显示全部楼层

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发表于 2007-6-21 09:46 | 显示全部楼层
哇~就算不做危險機械~當ㄧ般機械處理也很划算吧!
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3 C. d6 C7 k1 y# {: S7 X但是要看他所報價的規範 ~ 因為台灣有些廠商只做某ㄧ指令差不多也報這個價位!
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' O. M4 z( _% t2 \0 d$ J在台灣懂得多~報價不見得能拉高  (原因也在這~只報單一指令唉)!! V4 A! z4 X- X7 a

3 Q& T/ ?  O1 W不過您要注意了~ 這個價位要處理危險機械 恐怕有問題!
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7 _" _% u! {2 ], h" g(據了解~光發證單位的費用好像都比25000多喔)    難道測試寫技術文件不用錢嗎?
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* G) `' C" w  f$ m3 y建議多問一些單位!
发表于 2007-6-21 09:48 | 显示全部楼层
COC2.5W差不多!
发表于 2007-7-12 11:35 | 显示全部楼层
必须要有NB公告号的证书才可以,当然也可以选择一些有能力的实验室帮你做测试写报告,递交到这些NB机构去审核,发证书。费用肯定不会这么低的,光这些NB机构收取的费用就不止这个数了
发表于 2007-7-16 16:33 | 显示全部楼层
我也觉得2.5W不太可能拿下。
* O1 I* ~, O! n) l" f" b另外,不知道国内有无哪家实验室能做测试呢(不发证)?
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