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[美洲标准产品] 关于CSA标准升级

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发表于 2011-8-9 09:40 | 显示全部楼层 |阅读模式
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以下是认证公司发过来的关于CSA标准升级引起的ETL升级的大致内容, 我们是直流电机驱动的按摩器产品, 大致看了一下, 基本上没有在标准升级的范围之内, 收费要3万(两份报告, 一个认证号). 是否不用升级?6 _) _" b) F6 j4 n
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Standards Update Notification3 v: q/ t6 g. G6 A4 `+ H
CSA C22.2 No. 68, 9th Edition with Revisions through and including September 2009# W8 X& \/ `* `2 E" d
Page 3 of 3
+ T4 W7 Z% P+ v3 v0 ^Overview and Description of Changes
6 i( t( W  R5 v7 B; [Impact Statement: A review of all Listing Reports is necessary to determine which products already
  K. D' t( F& Q: c# G9 a. ]+ q5 {comply with these new/revised requirements and which products will require reevaluation and test.
( p* y  l5 r" F" T% B' Y7 SNote: Although some products are not affected by these revisions, at minimum, all Listing9 S5 M7 d. j" S2 \. ]4 [4 T8 F& n
Reports will need to be revised to show the correct standard, edition and revisions through date.
1 Q0 C9 Q" ?/ cNOTE: Effective immediately, this revised standard will be exclusively used for evaluation of new
5 ~& Z" a3 n& b7 mproducts unless the Applicant requests in writing that current requirements be used along with their0 V9 _5 K) `4 Q9 i0 C+ j
understanding that their listings will be withdrawn on the Effective Date of April 7, 2011 unless product is) ^% e; q$ C( R* T
found to comply with the new/revised requirements.0 ]& u" j7 S0 X* g7 H
Summary of Changes:
3 J! {( `1 N' Y5 O! \5 w1. Section 7.16.4 – Revised to have GFCI’s be marked with the wording “RAINPROOF” or “SUITABLE
, {0 k8 ^- P3 a' M* K1 \FOR WET LOCATIONS”3 m" C/ S  J# d" N; M
2. Section 5.20.1 - The requirements for high pressure washers have now been relaxed. This means that' N+ J8 ?$ p  R& `+ l
high pressure washers do not have to meet clause 5.20.1 (b) because these products will never produce1 }( @. Q4 n& o5 M0 U. H: F
a flammable spray since the spray will consists of less than 10% of any flammable liquid that may be* b: u$ X2 N" c; ~
added to the liquid container.
7 P3 A- c2 ~2 h+ d3. Flammability requirements: Replace the obsolete standard C22.2 No. 0.6 with the new standard C22.24 C9 J" a4 j& [5 c
No. 0.17.
. w; Z- `0 C, X: ]+ P1 A% ]4. Replace the obsolete CSA standard C22.2 No. 66 with C22.2 No. 66.1 and 66.2.. z9 n. c+ H: D
5. Incorporated in the new standard the high pressure requirements on the type of cords as per T.I.L. 33.
  s# V1 T, N0 f: S/ D6. Added in the scope hand held engravers, which in the past were being covered by the tool standard.
$ T5 K, q8 h0 }! ?$ f7. Changed the term “Pressure –Limiting device” to “Pressure –regulating device” to better understand
  {. v% b$ j- Xthe function of the device and at the same time harmonize with UL’s definition. The present term was
1 I$ d* S' w" Q/ gmisleading since it did not state that it regulates automatically the pressure.6 j7 S+ \8 {% M% Y9 R. Z
8. Deleted door operators from this standard. Door operators were transferred to C22.2 No. 247-92 in
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3 i  v# q2 }! f: k9. Pressure regulating devices have to be investigated for 30,000 cycles to ensure that the calibration
/ g' |. H. _" q0 n7 I  xpressure is within 5%. In the past most pressure regulating devices were tested for current only and these
# s( u1 N$ `8 H. \devices were never verified if they can pass the pressure requirements.: N, x# C, d! q' P! V& g4 p! ~
10. The water test for outdoor equipment are now covered in clause 5.2.15.1 and the applicable standard+ g/ w% c. W2 J5 b, ^
is C22.2 No. 94.2, which superseded C22.2 No. 94.) c* g* z& l0 K. _) ]
No samples are needed for this SUN. Review Listing report and add marking in item 1 above if needed.4 f! K) S+ ]! I$ E# Z+ A
Verify compliance with item 5 for the cord used.
" h0 {) U% s% j4 tReview Evaluation and testing of product to verify that pressure regulating devices have been$ L3 i, m  y7 `
investigated to 30,000 cycles. If not additional testing will be required.4 f. o7 p5 d$ H# W1 m/ B
Other requirements are relaxed or are replacements for obsolete standards so all products comply.
发表于 2011-8-9 09:57 | 显示全部楼层
标题不对,应该是CSA标准升级
发表于 2011-8-9 09:58 | 显示全部楼层
标准变了,证书号在有效期内的话,只需要update就好,依然要申请,但是这个应该不是全新申请,故只需要两份报告+新的证书号。不晓得这个机构收费做一个全新的申请收费为多少,如果仅仅是出个报告和证书号,个人感觉这个机构收费堪比UL了。你的这个情况跟我们的一个产品有点类似,标准换版了,我们的工程师没来及的跟进,导致证书号从暂停转到撤销。我们的产品恰好不在标准更改项内,故属于Update, 只需要交个报告费和其他若干,比全新的省时省钱。以上仅我司情况供参考!如果你们的证书号还在有效期内,就尽快跟进!
发表于 2011-8-9 11:09 | 显示全部楼层
楼主把我个菜鸟搞糊涂了。还真没有听说有ETL标谁。
发表于 2011-8-9 11:22 | 显示全部楼层
ETL 没有标准!他沿用的是UL的标准或是其他国际标准
 楼主| 发表于 2011-8-9 12:29 | 显示全部楼层
杨柳风: 呵呵, 是的, 应该是CSA标准升级, 因为我们做的是ETL & CETL认证, 所以没细想就写上ETL 标准了.
& _9 G4 J+ ^$ l+ j0 Pqxq2008: 认证公司说是标准换版. 我跟他理论, 说我们的产品跟标准升级部分没多大关系, 但他说这是他们公司的规定, 不管有没有关系, 都是统一价: 1.5万/一份报告. 他补充说有些客户的产品和标准升级关系大, 他们测试的工作量大, 也是这个价, 我抗议说这不公平, 应该按具体测试工作量来区别收费. 他又重申这是他们公司的统一规定, 还说下次说不定标准升级就是我们的产品测试工作量大了. * A  P) h* z( l
千里无痕: 呵呵, 是我的错, 希望不再让你糊涂
发表于 2011-8-9 12:39 | 显示全部楼层
都是与高压力器具有关,很多产品都是改个标准号而已,15000等于在抢钱!
+ ^% O# e" z2 R你直接威胁他们的业务,如果Paper Work都收这么贵,所有项目一律转出。遇到这种情况,或者你可以考虑把ETL的报告转换成其他认证公司的报告,有些公司转个报告也就5000块之内,标准跟着也升级了。
 楼主| 发表于 2011-8-9 13:16 | 显示全部楼层
Liu: 据我所知, ETL认证国内就一家能做, 如有其它家请告知, 谢谢!
发表于 2011-8-11 21:48 | 显示全部楼层
引用第7楼TZX1976于2011-08-09 13:16发表的  :
1 ]$ g% B0 l8 r- B) RLiu: 据我所知, ETL认证国内就一家能做, 如有其它家请告知, 谢谢!
可能Liu是找第三方实验室做的,但威胁第三方是没用的,事情和他们是没关系的
 楼主| 发表于 2011-8-26 12:18 | 显示全部楼层
是的,没办法,  我们已经交钱了
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