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标题: 關于battery charger申請UL 60950-1問題 [打印本页]

作者: prince    时间: 2008-4-11 21:08
标题: 關于battery charger申請UL 60950-1問題
現有一款battery charger在申請UL 60950-1時, UL說根據Practical Application Guidelines for+ ~% T* i9 i" g5 J* D8 Y; h
Information Technology Equipment –Safety – Part-1: General RequirementsPAG 60950-1, First Edition, 如下:
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4.3.8-3 Performance requirements for battery chargers with battery packs3 b1 x, \5 ~4 `9 J# M# _4 c9 |
STANDARD IEC/UL 60950-1
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(Sub)CLAUSE/ANNEX NUMBER: 4.3.8
  i5 r3 Z" U. n! m% H- [: f; L, u(Sub)CLAUSE/ANNEX HEADING: Batteries1 n! D" {, a' @. K' B
OTHER RELEVANT (Sub)CLAUSES/ANNEXES (as4 w$ n5 d1 O+ m6 ^! U) ?
Applicable):
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DESCRIPTION OF ISSUE:
7 `. {& [3 S. v& I% Y& fType of Issue: Technical/Certification
5 P7 X0 e+ u2 q! iWhat are the construction and performance requirements for battery chargers (with battery1 ?% A  P: q3 ?  g
packs) when the battery charger is evaluated under the Standard as part of either an end% d" q/ d/ N# p0 A& i) y7 I$ B
product investigation or part of an Accessory Listing investigation?
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The following are general construction and performance guidelines.- e( w3 Y* K% I( t8 n7 G% [7 i& o/ Y
Construction: The following considerations should be given to battery chargers (and packs)
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b. The charger should be marked to indicate the battery pack (mfg./type/rating) for- A& u2 f6 Z3 J5 E  v3 E
which the battery charger is to be used;

. u' y; p. c, h% z) X8 L* ac. The battery charger and battery pack constructions should be controlled in the UL
* p* b8 F) U3 r7 YFollow-up Procedure.
: O$ p1 G$ G+ L) g( v7 X  v2 D5 APerformance: The following considerations should be given to the performance test program
+ B4 }$ ~! T- ?established for battery chargers:
5 e& X4 e2 ~$ k" k186 PAG 60950-1 OCTOBER 1, 2004
3 `2 S- B* ?2 q9 \0 h% Oa. For external stand-alone battery chargers that have the capability of supplying ITE; u4 ]9 h* D: b' w/ N8 O$ p: z
with power, a Heating Test (sub-clause 4.5) should be conducted with the battery
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charged battery packs until thermal equilibrium is achieved;
7 x3 P# L9 ]! }6 @# d+ j: W# A/ Ab. For all battery charger circuits, a Heating Test (sub-clause 4.5) should be  o& a; Y3 m8 @6 y
conducted with the battery charger charging battery packs that have been fully
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  x& Q9 ^% w+ V+ uc. If the battery charging circuit is supplied by a transformer, a Transformer Overload# n/ }( `" m' U
(C1) Test should be conducted on the transformer that supplies the charging circuit.
: k+ X5 L2 q9 _! x! hd. An Abnormal Operation Test program (per Sub-clauses 4.3.8 and 5.3.6) should be
$ o2 @: ]& Y4 v" [* f! Adesigned anticipating possible foreseeable fault conditions, including a short circuit of
; j5 l: b" n& F) x" N9 [the battery charger output (if user accessible) and reverse polarity testing of the
& s9 v0 d, {; V- X7 C% ?charger input (if the battery charger input connector is not polarized).
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equipment evaluations. Battery chargers are typically designed for specific size (power) battery/ C% A/ Z3 n+ P, z6 P
packs and use of battery packs other than that specified by the manufacturer could create a. v+ f7 G- D7 p' R! Q: ~2 p
hazard. Therefore, it is prudent to require correlation marking between charger unit and battery2 u: m; h) @$ m! i% q
pack.
+ t4 @- R, |7 c% s& ~/ hBattery charger circuits typically are supplied power by a transformer. During the charging cycle," e0 U8 M& d! P/ y4 J1 d; {- X
the transformer may be subjected to a different set of thermal conditions than experienced, A  k. ~5 C. o% s0 F6 y/ \
during other normal load testing, and it is more likely that a transformer supplying the charger
3 \3 z5 _) Q; u3 |  Dcircuit will be subjected to an overload condition. Therefore, requiring a transformer overload$ N2 k' P' o1 S2 D' S! L
test.7 d, J0 X$ c  v" O8 x! |
OTHER:
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Interpretation Systems: NONE5 e* L& v6 Z& U8 F

* ^/ d1 ^$ B# p; P" R1 R. I需要管控電池, 且需要指定電池的型號及廠家, 還有在Heating Test及Input Test需要用到電池, 但我的battery charger并不打算連同電池一起銷售呀, 且也目前沒有跟此battery charger搭配的電池.
# p4 C) h. P: U請問這樣合理嗎?請大家討論下.
作者: rick.xiao    时间: 2008-4-12 09:47
解決方案一. 你在申請ul60950時壓根就不要提功能是Battery Charger,申請Power Sullply就好了,因為在申請Power Sullply和Battery Charger雖然用同一個標準來評估,但是針對不同用法要求是不一樣的;
3 X! _. A) e; }) o) Z( y- n解決方案二. 如果你一定要以Battery Charger來申請,那是一定要管控電池型號規格的了,同時輸出端需加极性保護,好像可以不控制廠家的,這點你可以和認證公司溝通一下應為可行的.
作者: jackie    时间: 2008-4-12 21:38
标题: Re:关于battery charger申请UL 60950-1问题
一般来说Battery Charger是以申请UL1310 or UL1012为主,但若一定要申请UL 60950-1,则会依照PAG的要求,是必须控制锂电池的厂家型号,其他类的充电电池会控制规格,并且需搭配电池做测试
作者: prince    时间: 2008-4-21 10:07
經跟UL工程師討論, 最終需要在Label及使用手冊中管控電池的廠家及型號, 但電池必須是UL 2054的Listing的電池.
作者: yishenger    时间: 2008-4-21 13:54
充电器嘛,在使用说明书或铭牌中当然要写明适用的电池信息啦,电池型号那么多,消费者不知道,那就要写明是什么厂家生产的什么型号的电池了。这样防止用户随便给不适用电池充电带来危险。
作者: prince    时间: 2008-6-3 23:56
我覺得這個問題有爭議, 因為我們再做ATX Power時也不會去考量它最終會用在何種環境下,如果到時發生了問題這樣的責任也很難劃分是ATX Power的問題還是其它PC里面的零件問題.那么這個也跟battery charger不搭配電池銷售一樣.
作者: jackie    时间: 2008-6-4 22:39
标题: Re:关于battery charger申请UL 60950-1问题
ATX Power是属于半成品类,最终还是要与系统再做评估,与充电器的状况是不一样的
作者: prince    时间: 2008-6-6 08:57
那我們的筆記本用的Adapter也可以給電池充電, 但我們也不會去評估這顆Adapter是否會搭配何種電池.
作者: kevin1946    时间: 2008-6-7 16:19
引用第7楼prince于2008-06-06 08:57发表的  :6 e4 ]8 V' W4 T; E" \* Y& N
那我們的筆記本用的Adapter也可以給電池充電, 但我們也不會去評估這顆Adapter是否會搭配何種電池.
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这也许是应为充放电的管理电路在笔记本上,而不在Adapter上!
作者: fd_fang    时间: 2008-6-24 14:43
但是给笔记本或手机申请时那个电源并没有写明是充电器,而是写电源适配器。
作者: liweiqi5    时间: 2008-6-25 08:29
大家知道有UL  listing 的电池就没有多少家呀.




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